Today I have the great pleasure of being the host on Day 3 of the Virtual Blog Tour of author  Charlene M. Proctor whose book The Oneness Gospel:  Birthing the Christ Consciousness and Divine Human in You launches on Amazon on Tuesday April 24, 2012.

Charlene Proctor

Charlene M. Proctor, Ph.D. is an ordained Minister of Spiritual Peacemaking and a “Deeksha” facilitator trained by the oneness guides from Fiji and India.  She is the bestselling author of Let Your Goddess Grow! 7 Spiritual Lessons on Female Power and Positive Thinking and The Women’s Book of Empowerment: 323 Affirmations That Change Everyday Problems Into Moments of Potential. Her Midwestern sensibility and spiritual approach to self-empowerment has helped thousands awaken to their Divine magnificence within.

Author Charlene M. Proctor, Ph.D. has written a new book that brings us back to the Essence of true spirituality. The book, entitled The Oneness Gospel: Birthing the Christ Consciousness and Divine Human in You, is a rich mix of science, spirituality and mysticism that transcends the boundaries of religion, and uplifts the reader to that place of Oneness. An ordained Minister of Spiritual Peacemaking and a Deeksha facilitator trained by the oneness guides from Fiji and India, Charlene’s mission in life is to help awaken to their Divine magnificence within all humanity.

Yesterday, Charlene visited Yvonne Perry at, where they talked about the oneness movement, cutting cords and mass enlightenment.

Today, I’d like to share with you a recent interview I had with Charlene when I got to ask her some questions on biggest diseases, enlightenment and “The dark night of the soul.” I hope you enjoy it.

Gill Potter: What are the biggest diseases of western culture?

Charlene M. Proctor: We manage our suffering rather than coming to terms with it and moving through it.

There will always be suffering. We suffer when we don’t fully live through the present moment, feel the pain of it (if there is pain) and embrace it.  The East is teaching us that we, in the West, are experts at suffering management.  We stuff our suffering, go to therapy, eat, drink, complain, get mad at our families, run away, watch TV, shop more, or look for love in the wrong places. We don’t face our suffering head on and allow it to fill us.  We don’t want to feel it and stay with that pain.  Even old emotional charges, which are the residue of old suffering, need to be faced head on until they pass.  Westerners think the way to deal with suffering is to contain it and manage it.  That is not the key to living in joy and the way to fully experiencing life.

In the West, our minds are running our lives. Rather than being a work-servant to our lives, our minds are obsessed with the past and the future. We chose to allow old conditioning, and ‘autopilot living’ dominate our experience, rather than fully immersing ourselves in the present.  Also, we carry too many emotional charges and traumas. These charges become stuck in our koshas, the energy layers which cause us physical distress. To fix all this, we identify with our old stories, as well as our physical bodies instead of our spiritual selves, and wind up as seekers seeking everything from happiness to more pleasure, instead of seeking ‘essence.’

Also, we don’t know our own divinity and don’t feel connected. All suffering originates in the belief in separation. Sin is our belief in separation from God, the Good, in consciousness. Our salvation is now—not something that occurs after death. It happens whenever we turn our thoughts from fear, anxiety, worry and doubt to thoughts of love, harmony, joy and peace. The ‘fall’ that religion has frightened us with simply takes place in consciousness whenever we fall into negative habits of thinking. Heaven and hell are states of consciousness, not geographical locations. We make our own heaven or hell here and now by our thoughts, words and deeds. It would be great if we could release all these fears.

Gill Potter: What is true enlightenment?

Charlene M. Proctor: One who is enlightened loves god supremely.  He or she rises through their own effort and self-reflection.  They see god in everyone, love unconditionally, and are optimistic about life and humanity.

A person who is enlightened has re-imagined their own divinity, which is the true self where all power and potential reside. He or she knows there is no separation – that all beings are one, unified whole. Enlightenment is simply the shift from ego, the separate self, to essence, which is the unified whole. And it takes a high level of conscious awareness to live like this all the time.

Judging by the amount of people I see attending spiritual programs, I would say most are looking to create higher levels of awareness of their unity with the Divine. Many have been seeking for so long they are caught up in the seeking process. Enlightenment is not the end of the road.  It is simply waking up.  It is a shift in perception where a person disengages from old emotions, habits, assumptions, traumas, and conditioning. You no longer live behind the masks you have constructed in order to survive. That is the true transformation.

When you only identify with your separate nature, and don’t embrace unity, which is your real nature, life is nothing more than a series of exercises meant to measure your importance, money, career, or personal appearance against everyone else.

Most people spend too much time championing their own individual causes and comparing their philosophies, success, and religions. They fret over who is right, or not doing it right, or who is on the right side of God. They do not accept the unity that binds humanity at the fundamental level! Once they do, they usually are not concerned with how they look, who has the biggest house and car, and keeping up with the neighbors.

Associate yourself with your universal self or the God Self, and fill yourself with it. That is how you live a life of purpose and an enlightened life.

Gill Potter: How do you help others deal with or understand “The dark night of the soul?”

Charlene M. Proctor: When we bring more light into the body, there is a corresponding emotional and biological reaction. Old barriers, physical blocks, and emotional patterns come to the surface in order to be released. The dark night of the soul represents a cleansing of the personal unconscious in preparation for a deeper descent of light, and is usually considered as a prerequisite for the deeper stages of spiritual mastery.

Jesus experienced this dark night of the soul prior to his public mission as he ‘wrestled with Satan’ in the wilderness. Buddha also experienced this during his process of enlightenment as he fought the ‘temptations of Mara’. It is only frightening as long as we are afraid to die. Once we realize that there is no ‘self’ left to die, a new dawn can begin. If we choose to enter and experience our own dark night we must be willing to deeply examine our past and all aspects of from an emotional level, and then accept our humanity and practice forgiveness. Then, release the past and move forward to be part of the human community.

You can also re-imagine your own divinity and know, collectively and individually, you are God also.  You are not separate from the divine. Knowing your true self is to know the power and potential within you. By being aligned with this energy and idea, you can certainly do all the works the greatest masters have done. This was a consistent message from Jesus who reminded us to identify with The I AM. “From me, All (The I AM) came forth, and through me, all is attained,” he said.  Light is everywhere and so are we. “Split a piece of wood, I am there, lift up a stone, and you will find me there.” The ALL refers to being itself, in other words, being a light-being, and does not refer to knowing him as a person or through any religion. Light always overcomes darkness, so just remember who you truly are on a regular basis.

© Charlene M. Proctor Ph.D.  The Oneness Gospel: Birthing the Christ Consciousness and Divine Human in You.  All Rights Reserved.


I hope you enjoyed this interview with Charlene M. Proctor and that you’ll check out her book The Oneness Gospel:  Birthing the Christ Consciousness and Divine Human in You at

Here’s why:

When you sign up for a reminder, you’ll receive:

A FREE pass to attend Charlene’s inspiring “Your Journey to Joy Webinar” taught by Charlene and presented by best-selling author Lynn Serafinn. On this uplifting and informative webinar, Charlene will talk about how we develop our belief in separation and suffering, how those beliefs get stored as trauma in the body, and how to change your inner reality so you can experience JOY in every aspect of your life.

THEN…When you buy The Oneness Gospel on Tuesday April 24th, 2012, you’ll also receive:

  • The MP3 download from the “Your Journey to Joy Webinar”
  • An invitation to “Twelve Principles for Becoming a Divine Human“, a special online discussion with Charlene
  • A complete library of beautiful, downloadable gifts from authors, speakers, coaches and other enlightened professionals from around the globe. I’m offering a gift too: Tune into your Moon - bonus gift from Gill Potter

Bonus gift from Gill Potter
Tune into your Moon

Tune into your Moon can help you:

  • Make better decisions in your home life, career and relationships;
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  • Understand what makes you tick at the unconscious level by working with astrology and the Moon in your birth chart!

Gill Potter

              Gill Potter is a Sacred Purpose coach,astrologer and Archetypal Consultant

Your Sacred Purpose was created to share everything that Gill has learned on her own path to know the Divine and her own purpose. She now works with heart centred entrepreneurs to support them and their business to grow exponentially aligned with their Spirit. She inspires others to follow their true calling NOW.


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 Thanks for reading! As usual, please feel free to share your comments and thoughts below. I love reading your feedback.

AND… be sure to follow Charlene tomorrow when the next stop on the Virtual Blog Tour is Mal Duane, who will be interviewing Charlene on deeksha, letting go and releasing suffering.  To visit that “stop” on the tour, go to

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3 Responses to “Virtual interview with Charlene M. Proctor”

  1. We will always experience pain. Suffering is our reaction to pain. As the length of time of our reactions decrease, we will experience less suffering. Some day our reactions will decrease as we experience a state of neutrality and thus little or no suffering.

    I believe as we integrate our Divine Self and identify less with our personalities, suffering also decreases.

    I experienced the Dark Night of the Soul for 2 months at one time in my life. I intuitively knew I had to surrender everything in my life, even what I knew as my life purpose. When I willing did this Divine Grace entered.

  2. [...] Charlene visited Gill Potter at, where they talked about biggest diseases, enlightenment and “The dark night of the [...]

  3. Gill says:

    Thanks for your helpful comments Michael. Much appreciated-Gill

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